Last updated on February 28th, 2022 at 10:28 am

On this episode of Apes Among Us, hosts Brandon Lentz, Matt Pruitt, and Brian Brown talk to North American Wood Ape Conservancy members who, while conducting observational field studies in the Ouachita Mountains, have observed an imposing gray wood ape to which the NAWAC colloquially refers as “Old Gray.” Primatologist Esteban Sarmiento also weighs in, bringing to bear his experience with the known apes.

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